Comments on: Igorot Beggars: The Skeletons in Our Open Closet http://igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igorot-beggars-skeletons-in-our-open.html A news and information blog on the Igorots/iCordilleras Sun, 07 Mar 2010 01:36:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: TOCP Awardee http://igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igorot-beggars-skeletons-in-our-open.html#comment-3326 TOCP Awardee Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:35:12 +0000 http://igorotblogger.com/?p=306#comment-3326 My friends,with due respect and humbleness I suggest that u open TOCP Awardee or www.Philjaycees.com(TOCP Awardee),i've tried to do my best in my field i hope i will do more for the sake of igorot people and the people of the cordillera who preferd to be called igorot,Respect anyway is not ask its earned,now,if you see my name you can always contact me i will serve the Sacred Etag even kinuday with Pinicpican to prove my sincerity as GI.My CP # for 7years 09208502438.side comment po.. for those igorots who are not real in there way please stop!!!.. dont prejudice the true igorots..inayan ken Kubunyan kababain sa!!!!! My friends,with due respect and humbleness I suggest that u open TOCP Awardee or http://www.Philjaycees.com(TOCP Awardee),i’ve tried to do my best in my field i hope i will do more for the sake of igorot people and the people of the cordillera who preferd to be called igorot,Respect anyway is not ask its earned,now,if you see my name you can always contact me i will serve the Sacred Etag even kinuday with Pinicpican to prove my sincerity as GI.My CP # for 7years 09208502438.side comment po.. for those igorots who are not real in there way please stop!!!.. dont prejudice the true igorots..inayan ken Kubunyan kababain sa!!!!!

]]> By: TruBlue http://igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igorot-beggars-skeletons-in-our-open.html#comment-3323 TruBlue Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:33:32 +0000 http://igorotblogger.com/?p=306#comment-3323 Anonymous 4:32am - Stay away from those kinds of chameleons, they're the worthless types of people. Anonymous 4:32am – Stay away from those kinds of chameleons, they're the worthless types of people.

]]> By: Anonymous http://igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igorot-beggars-skeletons-in-our-open.html#comment-3322 Anonymous Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:32:32 +0000 http://igorotblogger.com/?p=306#comment-3322 ni Mr. Aliping idtuy New zealand ket madi na nga awagan nga Igorot ti grupo da.Apay ngay ket taga Bauko,Mt.Prov. samet nisuna? ni Mr. Aliping idtuy New zealand ket madi na nga awagan nga Igorot ti grupo da.Apay ngay ket taga Bauko,Mt.Prov. samet nisuna?

]]> By: TruBlue http://igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igorot-beggars-skeletons-in-our-open.html#comment-3320 TruBlue Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:18:48 +0000 http://igorotblogger.com/?p=306#comment-3320 "i conclude that all of you does not posses the quality of a proud and true igorot" - TOPC<br /><br />Just what make you think YOU are the REAl Igorot? Let me know your requisites? "i conclude that all of you does not posses the quality of a proud and true igorot" – TOPC

Just what make you think YOU are the REAl Igorot? Let me know your requisites?

]]> By: TOCP Awardee http://igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igorot-beggars-skeletons-in-our-open.html#comment-3319 TOCP Awardee Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:26:19 +0000 http://igorotblogger.com/?p=306#comment-3319 Gentle people reading all your positive and negatve comments about the igorots i conclude that all of you does not posses the quality of a proud and true igorot,igorots have proven their class of people during the spanish Govnment,its doesnot mean murderer,beggar,ifugao,ifontoc,iballoy,kankanaey,aplai,etc i am proud igorot simple because i know the strength,goodness and wisdom of old people who were proud to be igorots,if you dont want to be igorot well fine thats your choice but remember never take advantage of the strength and goodness of the igorots in any place.For me if i see cordillerans with inappropriate attitudes i conclude that they are not real igorots.I will continue to preserve and defend the untainted,unblemish,unconquered,united true igorots.I suggest you read more about the meaning of igorots your ignorance might cause a bad dream,i must inform you that igorots nowadays are tag as most industrious,high morals,secured,friendly loving people,buyers of land upto mindanao,many'even mestizos want to be called igorot but they cant be real,if we envy the real igorots lets not bismirk them. Gentle people reading all your positive and negatve comments about the igorots i conclude that all of you does not posses the quality of a proud and true igorot,igorots have proven their class of people during the spanish Govnment,its doesnot mean murderer,beggar,ifugao,ifontoc,iballoy,kankanaey,aplai,etc i am proud igorot simple because i know the strength,goodness and wisdom of old people who were proud to be igorots,if you dont want to be igorot well fine thats your choice but remember never take advantage of the strength and goodness of the igorots in any place.For me if i see cordillerans with inappropriate attitudes i conclude that they are not real igorots.I will continue to preserve and defend the untainted,unblemish,unconquered,united true igorots.I suggest you read more about the meaning of igorots your ignorance might cause a bad dream,i must inform you that igorots nowadays are tag as most industrious,high morals,secured,friendly loving people,buyers of land upto mindanao,many'even mestizos want to be called igorot but they cant be real,if we envy the real igorots lets not bismirk them.

]]> By: TruBlue http://igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igorot-beggars-skeletons-in-our-open.html#comment-3292 TruBlue Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:36:55 +0000 http://igorotblogger.com/?p=306#comment-3292 It's impossible to imitate Quasimodo. <br /><br />This illustrates you need not have a PhD to be so smart. People's hidden talents comes out from hibernation when it comes to evil things, big and small. <br /><br />Cheers to all and belated Happy Father's day and you too Bill. It's impossible to imitate Quasimodo.

This illustrates you need not have a PhD to be so smart. People's hidden talents comes out from hibernation when it comes to evil things, big and small.

Cheers to all and belated Happy Father's day and you too Bill.

]]> By: Anonymous http://igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igorot-beggars-skeletons-in-our-open.html#comment-3291 Anonymous Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:51:25 +0000 http://igorotblogger.com/?p=306#comment-3291 In my college days in the 80's, I used to see old Igorots begging along Magsaysay Ave. One beggar I saw was a hunchedback old lady begging from a white tourist couple. After walking fast a distance away, she became upright! When she saw another white person, she became hunchedback again! In my college days in the 80's, I used to see old Igorots begging along Magsaysay Ave. One beggar I saw was a hunchedback old lady begging from a white tourist couple. After walking fast a distance away, she became upright! When she saw another white person, she became hunchedback again!

]]> By: TruBlue http://igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igorot-beggars-skeletons-in-our-open.html#comment-1347 TruBlue Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:37:00 +0000 http://igorotblogger.com/?p=306#comment-1347 Anonymous 2:22 - My mistake on the Ilongot/Ilongo, but there was no need for 5:02 to reference the Ilongot's in the discussion.<br/>On Guv TB, I should have said "the house he is currently living" and "close neighbor to my relatives" as it's a walking distance.<br/>Also, it's not presumptuous of me when I said "well-informed", I didn't say I was an expert in your culture. Let me also say my kins only not JUST lived there as you indicated, they were born and raised in Kiangan with Ifugao/Igorot in their bloodlines. <br/>Calling yourselves Ifugaos as your identity, has little importance to me, and as I said previously, more power to you all. Cheers.... Anonymous 2:22 – My mistake on the Ilongot/Ilongo, but there was no need for 5:02 to reference the Ilongot’s in the discussion.
On Guv TB, I should have said “the house he is currently living” and “close neighbor to my relatives” as it’s a walking distance.
Also, it’s not presumptuous of me when I said “well-informed”, I didn’t say I was an expert in your culture. Let me also say my kins only not JUST lived there as you indicated, they were born and raised in Kiangan with Ifugao/Igorot in their bloodlines.
Calling yourselves Ifugaos as your identity, has little importance to me, and as I said previously, more power to you all. Cheers….

]]> By: Anonymous http://igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igorot-beggars-skeletons-in-our-open.html#comment-1345 Anonymous Fri, 20 Jul 2007 06:22:00 +0000 http://igorotblogger.com/?p=306#comment-1345 Hi Trueblue,<br/>I am also from Ifugao and I agree with anonymous 5:02. In fairness to the post, there was no mention of ilongos (what you may have meant as "ilonggos"). But it mentions of ilongots, or bugkalots, as Bill says.<br/><br/>I think its presumptous of you to say that you are well-informed about the ifugaos just because your relatives lived in Kiangan. Adda aya ti kasta? For your info, Guv Ted B, has no house. He is living in the house of his grandparents, which is not behind anybody's house but directly facing a road.<br/><br/>I stumbled upon this informative site only recently and I am not aware of your defense of Dontugan. But for your information, an Ifugao lawyer is staunchly defending him in the court of law.<br/><br/>As to your confusion on how the people of CAR can be called ... maybe, "Cordilleran" or simply "Ipugao" (meaning, tao) can do. As an Ifugao but not Igorot like 5:02, this would be fine with me. <br/><br/>Peace met kabsat, padak nga taga banbantay --- siyak ni Pedlo Sikangay, in short, Imakaiw :) Hi Trueblue,
I am also from Ifugao and I agree with anonymous 5:02. In fairness to the post, there was no mention of ilongos (what you may have meant as “ilonggos”). But it mentions of ilongots, or bugkalots, as Bill says.

I think its presumptous of you to say that you are well-informed about the ifugaos just because your relatives lived in Kiangan. Adda aya ti kasta? For your info, Guv Ted B, has no house. He is living in the house of his grandparents, which is not behind anybody’s house but directly facing a road.

I stumbled upon this informative site only recently and I am not aware of your defense of Dontugan. But for your information, an Ifugao lawyer is staunchly defending him in the court of law.

As to your confusion on how the people of CAR can be called … maybe, “Cordilleran” or simply “Ipugao” (meaning, tao) can do. As an Ifugao but not Igorot like 5:02, this would be fine with me.

Peace met kabsat, padak nga taga banbantay — siyak ni Pedlo Sikangay, in short, Imakaiw :)

]]> By: Bill Bilig http://igorotblogger.com/2007/07/igorot-beggars-skeletons-in-our-open.html#comment-1329 Bill Bilig Wed, 18 Jul 2007 22:05:00 +0000 http://igorotblogger.com/?p=306#comment-1329 Hi Everyone,<br/>My apologies for not joining the recent discussion here. I've actually written a very long comment. It kept getting longer so I just decided to make it a full blog post which I will be uploading at the main page in the coming days. <br/><br/>Considering that we have different opinions on the matter, this is an issue where we have to agree to disagree as we usually do here. <br/><br/>Hi Trublue, I think Anonymous (5:02) was referring to the Ilongots also called the Bugkalots of Nueva Vizcaya and not the Ilonggos of Iloilo. Regarding the Igorot Achievers category, the name of the category will remain as such but if you noticed in some title of specific posts I use List of Achievers for those who, I think, would not be comfortable being called Igorots. More of this in my coming post.<br/><br/>Off topic: Although Duntugan is a Kankanaey surname, Juan Duntugan is more of an Ifugao than a Kankanaey according to my source. Parang 75/25 yata. Pero kung ano man ang ratio, he is still our kailiyan who unfortunately did something wrong and who would have to face the consequences of his act. We hope of course that he has the best lawyers to ensure that his rights are protected in the same way that we hope that those who will prosecute him will also ensure that the interests of the victim Julia are also protected.<br/><br/>Peace and cheers everyone. And thanks for your inputs. Oops I still wrote a very long comment :-) Hi Everyone,
My apologies for not joining the recent discussion here. I’ve actually written a very long comment. It kept getting longer so I just decided to make it a full blog post which I will be uploading at the main page in the coming days.

Considering that we have different opinions on the matter, this is an issue where we have to agree to disagree as we usually do here.

Hi Trublue, I think Anonymous (5:02) was referring to the Ilongots also called the Bugkalots of Nueva Vizcaya and not the Ilonggos of Iloilo. Regarding the Igorot Achievers category, the name of the category will remain as such but if you noticed in some title of specific posts I use List of Achievers for those who, I think, would not be comfortable being called Igorots. More of this in my coming post.

Off topic: Although Duntugan is a Kankanaey surname, Juan Duntugan is more of an Ifugao than a Kankanaey according to my source. Parang 75/25 yata. Pero kung ano man ang ratio, he is still our kailiyan who unfortunately did something wrong and who would have to face the consequences of his act. We hope of course that he has the best lawyers to ensure that his rights are protected in the same way that we hope that those who will prosecute him will also ensure that the interests of the victim Julia are also protected.

Peace and cheers everyone. And thanks for your inputs. Oops I still wrote a very long comment :-)

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